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Tony K



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: MAC users Reply with quote

Even though we have done no specific testing or development for MAC, we have at least one user [Axis on the forum] who is running TrackVision on a MAC under Parallels, and reports that its working very nicely.

We've exchanged email on this, because I was surprised that everything ran so nicely under Parallels. Axis mentioned that Bootcamp was not nearly as successful, but Parallels delivered "a more stable XP platform than many PCs could manage". OK, that not saying a lot, but it IS a data point for MAC users.

I'm posting this today because we have found another MAC user in the fold. His first-time experience with TrackVision under Bootcamp was less smooth than what we had heard about the Parallels experience, but it worked once a few little codec wrinkles were sorted out.

While we are largely MAC illiterate here at TrackVision, and can't provide any useful MAC specific support, it appears that users are running under both OS X XP environments, with Parallels appearing to be the most robust.

Its a small sample so far, but there may be other MAC users out there who will come out of the closet now that this is a live topic. That would be great news.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that second user is me!....

As stated in my 'posterised output?' thread, I went with Bootcamp because I thought a 'true' PC (rather than a VM) would be a better bet when it came time to connect the Traqmate to the USB port - And in fairness to Bootcamp, that always worked OK. Further, installing Windows Media Player 11 (and the Divx codec) allowed everything to work as it should.

But, given the positive experiences reported here I downloaded Parallels and installed the VM environment - Very nice, and now all the Trackvision movies run fine with Media Player 9 in the VM (go figure!) - Very, very cool as rebooting gets to suck in a hurry.....

However, and the reason for posting this tale, is that, at present anyway, connecting the Traqmate appears to install the correct drivers (even in the usual brain dead Windows fashion of requiring two installs)

But, when I "Autoconnect to Traqmate" the Traqview S/W sees it (on com3 FWIW) and then crashes the VM in the classic "blue screen of death" fashion - I'm trying to capture that console log right now and will report back with details of progress.

So, for now anyway, I'd have to say "beware".....

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!

I'm totally new to this forum so bare with me please.

I'm after a product that does what trackvision does, it's the perfect tool for our situation.

What I'm wondering is, will it work on a MAC running OSX or does this software have to be running windows?

Can someone confirm this please?

Apologies, i'm a newbie.

Thanks in advance.
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Tony K



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey daps, I'm guessing you're an Aussie, right?

TrackVision is a Windows product - we do not have a native MAC version. However, we are seeing MAC users running TrackVision under Parallels on OS X. No guarantees, mainly because we have not tested or QA'd the product in this environment, but as more MAC users check in we will be more confident that it works.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony K wrote:
Hey daps, I'm guessing you're an Aussie, right?

TrackVision is a Windows product - we do not have a native MAC version. However, we are seeing MAC users running TrackVision under Parallels on OS X. No guarantees, mainly because we have not tested or QA'd the product in this environment, but as more MAC users check in we will be more confident that it works.


Hello mate,

lol good try! I'm not from the down under but more like the place where we have green countrysides and serve tea with biscuits every afternoon at 4. lol.

But down to business. I think we'd be best gettting a seperate machine. One of those pc things.

It's just we edit on Final Cut Pro with a few G5's but when we upgrade to the intel processors we'll probably go for it.

We're thinking of going for the AX22 instead of the DL1 from race technologies.

Thanks for the reply though Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude! - Don't do it! Smile

[Buy one of those peecee thingies!.....] - Bite the bullet and go straight to your choice of Intel Mac.....

Given that you're using FCP and G5's I'm assuming you want 'more' than a simple streaming video..... And, although I haven't got all the pieces in place yet my experimenting so far confirms:

1. FCExpress does what I want to two incoming video/audio streams - This editted file (with PIP, split screen, audio mix etc) is exported in a format palatable to Trackvision [I'll probably also archive the master back to DV tape and/or a DVD at this point, so worst case, TV can import this DV......]

2. TV (under Windows XPHome) runs *screamin* fast under Parallels - And thus far anyway has been rock solid - I've managed to crash it by connecting and disconnecting a datalogger, but never with TV - And even then, it reboots *way* faster than a real peesee [Plus, I guess I've crashed *real* pc's by screwing around with H/W, so that's no biggie Smile ]

3. Previous experience tells me you'll have much less pain by keeping it all on one machine - Even using Bootcamp (my initial choice to solve this 'issue') and rebooting between the two got old in a big hurry......

Just my 02c of course, as usual, ymmv,

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good man, that's what I wanna hear.

BTW Ian hello!

I'm been doing a bit of research and thinking and you're right.

I'm gonna stick with the macs Very Happy If things go well I'll look into getting Mac Pro tower Very Happy

I'll keep you updated and can you keep me updated too please.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

daps wrote:

I'm gonna stick with the macs Very Happy If things go well I'll look into getting Mac Pro tower Very Happy


Glad to hear it! - Gotta be honest, buying the 'legitimate' (rather than a tortuous upgrade to) XPHome CD hurt a little, but it does work great.

FYI - This is on a Mac Book Pro laptop, but it seems the towers behave exactly the same way.

Good luck,
Ian
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fast_ian wrote:
daps wrote:

I'm gonna stick with the macs Very Happy If things go well I'll look into getting Mac Pro tower Very Happy


Glad to hear it! - Gotta be honest, buying the 'legitimate' (rather than a tortuous upgrade to) XPHome CD hurt a little, but it does work great.

FYI - This is on a Mac Book Pro laptop, but it seems the towers behave exactly the same way.

Good luck,
Ian


Thanks man,

I think my friend is going to get the same laptop as you so once he gets that, I'm going to rob him and test it out. lol

Thanks again, just need to hear back from race technologies now.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another Mac user... just getting started and not sure if my problems are Mac related or operator error.

I have a Mac Pro running OS 10.4.9 with the latest version of Parallels. I have 3 Gb of RAM and 1.5 Tb of disk space. I have a 1 Tb RAID for fast video storage and a seperate 250 Gb HDD for the OS and programs. The system is ready for video (I use FinalCut Express HD on the Mac side).

I've got TrackVision partially operational. I can load and see the demo video but get nothing from the demo data. (does the data logger matter in the demo?)

I have video from a ChaseCam and data from a Traqmate of my own. I can get the video to display but get nothiing in the data window. Both otherwise run fine (I can see and run the traqview v1.3 software and can run the MPEG2 video).

Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom W wrote:
I have a Mac Pro running OS 10.4.9 with the latest version of Parallels. I have 3 Gb of RAM and 1.5 Tb of disk space. I have a 1 Tb RAID for fast video storage and a seperate 250 Gb HDD for the OS and programs. The system is ready for video (I use FinalCut Express HD on the Mac side).

S-w-e-e-t setup dude! - You da man! Smile

Tom W wrote:
I've got TrackVision partially operational. I can load and see the demo video but get nothing from the demo data. (does the data logger matter in the demo?)


This is a "known issue" with the demo files - The data is in one format, and Trackvision is expecting another - Specifically, start TV, edit -> preferences and change "logger model" to "Race Technology Analysis version 4MPH".

*However*, if, like me, you got the S/W via Traqmate you're screwed as that version only comes with the Traqmate "reader" - I figured its no big deal.......

Tom W wrote:
I have video from a ChaseCam and data from a Traqmate of my own. I can get the video to display but get nothiing in the data window. Both otherwise run fine (I can see and run the traqview v1.3 software and can run the MPEG2 video).

Any suggestions?


Start TV, edit -> Preferences and change the logger model to "Traqview V1.20MPH" and you should be good to go.

HTH,
Cheers,
Ian
PS - I'm also on Parallels - So far so good with the small exception that Windows *sometimes* crashes the 2nd (or subsequent) time a Traqmate DU is connected/disconnected.... Has this happened to you? [I suspect it may happen to "real" Windows users as well, so it's no big deal Smile ]
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom W wrote:
I have a Mac Pro running OS 10.4.9 with the latest version of Parallels. I have 3 Gb of RAM and 1.5 Tb of disk space. I have a 1 Tb RAID for fast video storage and a seperate 250 Gb HDD for the OS and programs. The system is ready for video (I use FinalCut Express HD on the Mac side).

Well, I have a dual core 64bit AMD with 4G ram and 1.2T storage: 500M striped for video input, a 2nd for video output and a random 10k rpm disk for the other stuff. And TrackVision works GREAT on it!

Wink

But, I'm a closet Mac fan stuck in a Windows world. I sold out to The Man.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregD wrote:
Well, I have a dual core 64bit AMD with 4G ram and 1.2T storage: 500M striped for video input, a 2nd for video output and a random 10k rpm disk for the other stuff. And TrackVision works GREAT on it!


OK - Greg da man! Smile

[Actually brings to mind a buddy of mine who (sometimes) works at an outfit called "Sportvision" - They invented the NFLs "first down marker", the extremely forgettable "glowing" hockey puck and the "floating" tags you see on Nascar races. He's now working on capturing from, I believe, *12* HD cameras set up around a stadium in order to build a 3D model that can be frozen and thence allow John Madden and his ilk to "fly" us around the field - He's really "Da man!"..... Smile ]

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now THATs some serious video processing! Impressive, and definitely an unlimited class revenue engine. I've got a serious case of Megaflops and polygon rate envy. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian: Thanks for the tip on the demo. I'll try it.

I have set the Traqmate import to the correct logger - that's why I wondered if it was an issue for v1.3 versus v1.2. So, the Traqmaste portion still doesn't appear to work.

I've not downloaded anything from the traqmate to my computer. I'm using a loaner Traqmate from the shop that takes care of my car. They've done the download and sent me a disk with the data. I've taken it from there. (I'll be adding AIM or MoTeC data logging to my car this winter.)

Greg: Hey, I just wanted a computer that would get the job done sooner than later. Smile Rendering the video files goes a lot faster now than it did on the old G4. This Mac run XP in a VM faster than my new dual core Dell runs it natively at work.
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